Novation Launch control XL - Knob lights

Hi, I bought Bome midi translator pro to translate the midi input from the novation launch control xl to a video editing software. The project is coming good but I am stuck with the led feedback. I can control the intensity and the colour of the button, but I can't control the knob light. I found in this forum the file that I attached here, it is intended for the APC mini, I tried it and some knobs leds switch on, but the project seems to complex to me to understand. Someone can explain me what I have to send to turn on a knob light (and the color) ?

Thank you in advantage

Salvatore


Attachments:
1557916839350_1530570306861_LED-Bit-Manipulation-APC-MINI-2017-09-09.bmtp

Hi,

The Launch Control XL MIDI LED map is quite different than that of the APC MINI.

The best way to control the LED’s would be to use the Sys Ex protocol that they define in their programming manual.

You may want to look around for an example on our forum for some other user. If you want I can provide an example on controlling a few LED’s. The color map is different as well.

On the APC MINI example I provided, it is fairly complex and I used a bitmapping method to control LED’s. For changes, I set the bitmap to the new values of the LED’s and then use timers to iterate through them and send LED display messages back to the controller to update their color.

Again, if you can give me an example of one or two buttons to push, which LED’s you want to control with them and what color, I could put together an example here on this board for free. If you want a complete project solution, then reach out to me in email with your detailed requirements and I can provide you an estimate.

 

Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz

 

 

The below example uses the first track focus button to alter the color of the first knob LED.

There are two translators but only one enabled.

The first translator, when enabled uses standard MIDI note messages to alter the LED value (color).

The second translator, when enabled uses Sys Ex to alter the LED value (color).

Only enable one translator at a time.

The programming guide that I provided the link shows the Sys Ex format and LED color values. I documented the note numbers within the translator for note type of LED control.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz


Attachments:
1557942505803_Launch-Conrol-XL-Example.bmtp

Perfect! The note method is better for me (better to understand). My error was that if I open the launch control editor and show the label, I see that all the knob are control change (and there isn’t listed the note for the LED) so I used control change, and does’t work. thank you so much for your help!
Salvatore

Glad to help. Yes I found it odd that the note numbers were not documented in the manual. I found it on another forum web site. I guess someone had to trial and error to find the note numbers needed.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Q and A Moderator and
Independent Bome Consultant/Specialist
bome@sniz.biz

I made a map of this.
So I can just look at the pic when programming it.

Interesting. I assume this is for Factory 1 mode. There are 8 factory modes that cannot be changed and then 8 user modes which are programmable. Also if you use the second port, it supports Mackie HUI (which is quite different than MCU).

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz

Oops I forgot to mention that. Edited the pic, thank you.

Wait, what? Mackie HUI? What’s That?
The device has a second port?

Yes it has a second port that will handle Mackie HUI commands. This would be handy for something like ProTools which doesn’t support Mackie MCU.

Wikipedia says HUI is now part of MCU.
I just looked my controller up and down. Only the one USB type B port. A Kensington lock on the other side. You must be thinking of a different controller. (The one I have is the MK2).

only one physical connector but if you look at MT Pro, two ports are exposed to that connector.

Wikipedia is wrong HUI and MCU are quite different.

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Oh that explains it! I always wondered why it had the two entries. Nice!
I’m interested because maybe that mysterious Master track mute/solo is hiding in HUI instead of MCU.

If it’s out there, I’m going to find it.
Sherlock

Mackie MCU has no concept of master track mute or solo. Muting a master track would simply be turning down the master track volume all the way. Soloing a master track doesn’t make sense as all other tracks feed the master track and soloing the master would mute all other tracks feeding it.

Mackie HUI doesn’t even have the concept of a master track.

Steve Caldwell
Bome Customer Care


Also available for paid consulting services: bome@sniz.biz
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Ouch. Ok at least that saves me the time of trial and error. I had it on my to do list.
Gives me an idea too. As a workaround I could make an MTP solo sequence = right click the volume slider, then “type in value” then 100 then enter. Opposite would enter a 0 value. :sweat_smile:

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