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Bome Box ethernet
Will a laptop connected to the ethernet see the Bome Box MIDI ports, either DIN or USB? Some driver needed?
Will two Bome Boxes be able to see each other's various ports over ethernet? USB controller at one end becomes processed DIN at the other?
I'm trying to arrange for a MIDI controller at the mix position to operate my MIDI or OSC controlled mixer onstage. I can do it all on tablets with wifi, but I want real faders so I can watch the stage, not my screen. I can put a laptop or a Mac Mini or something at either or both ends. I'd prefer a dedicated but easily reprogrammable solution.
Do you have even a vague idea of what the cost will be?
Will two Bome Boxes be able to see each other's various ports over ethernet? USB controller at one end becomes processed DIN at the other?
I'm trying to arrange for a MIDI controller at the mix position to operate my MIDI or OSC controlled mixer onstage. I can do it all on tablets with wifi, but I want real faders so I can watch the stage, not my screen. I can put a laptop or a Mac Mini or something at either or both ends. I'd prefer a dedicated but easily reprogrammable solution.
Do you have even a vague idea of what the cost will be?
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Re: Bome Box ethernet
Hi Nottoloud,
thanks for the many questions
Here are some details:
Anyway, hope that answers your questions!
Florian
PS: disclaimer, this is what we're currently implementing -- but don't sue me if any details will turn out differently!
thanks for the many questions

Here are some details:
- For every BomeBox, you have complete control of the MIDI routing (merging/duplicating/filtering/mapping) of
- the two 5-pin DIN ports
- all MIDI devices plugged via USB (possibly using a hub)
- all Bome network MIDI ports (Ethernet and WiFi)
- for setting up MIDI routing, you can use
- the BomeBox' web config (routing only), or
- a MIDI Translator (MT) project file in which you can use MT's MIDI Router, and all other MT features
- Bome network MIDI uses our own technology for security, very simple connection setup, and ultra low latency
- you can create as many network MIDI ports as you like by connecting to another BomeBox or to a desktop computer
- we're still debating for the best way to enable Bome network MIDI on desktops. Most likely, a sort of a driver.
- in any case, we don't plan to give direct network access to the other MIDI ports of a BomeBox. Instead, every network connection is set up as an own MIDI in/out pair which you need to "wire" using the routing setup.

Anyway, hope that answers your questions!
Florian
PS: disclaimer, this is what we're currently implementing -- but don't sue me if any details will turn out differently!
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Re: Bome Box ethernet
MT has been my problem-solver for many years. I'm looking forward to what you come up with. iConnectMIDI is close, but not smart enough.
What is the reason for not using rtp MIDI? AVB, the new open standard that MOTU is using, runs it as well. You can plug an AVB device into the ethernet port on any current Mac and have 128 channels of audio and whatever MIDI transport you want without drivers or licensing fees.
I vote for Yen.
What is the reason for not using rtp MIDI? AVB, the new open standard that MOTU is using, runs it as well. You can plug an AVB device into the ethernet port on any current Mac and have 128 channels of audio and whatever MIDI transport you want without drivers or licensing fees.
I vote for Yen.
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Re: Bome Box ethernet
Thanks.
Regarding RTP-MIDI, I've considered it already years ago but I opted for an own implementation for these reasons:
And btw, Bome network MIDI (code named "QBMNP") works great with AVB, too
Florian
PS: a hint: Japanese customers will have to map their currency
(they're allowed to do that with MT's rules, though)
Regarding RTP-MIDI, I've considered it already years ago but I opted for an own implementation for these reasons:
- security (e.g. protect connection setup with a password)
- simple setup/auto discovery
- connection setup without requiring a UI (with buttons on the boxes)
- lower overhead (possibly lower latency)
- full transparent transmission of any MIDI message (no deep inspection)
- no dependency on Apple's Bonjour
- last, but not least: my network protocol is already implemented (and used and well tested by many OEM customers of mine)
And btw, Bome network MIDI (code named "QBMNP") works great with AVB, too

Florian
PS: a hint: Japanese customers will have to map their currency

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Re: Bome Box ethernet
here you can check out our NAMM demos of the BomeBox:
http://www.bome.com/products/bomebox/videos
http://www.bome.com/products/bomebox/videos
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Re: Bome Box ethernet
loved the Pong game.
Re: Bome Box ethernet
Hi Florian,
So with this bomebox connected to a computer I can route the physical MIDI ports to the bomes virtuals.
Over WIFI or physically with ethernet.
Have you measured the jitter of the signal through your system? I see a possible use for this as a replacement for USB input, if it's jitter was substaintially less.
Catch my drift?
So with this bomebox connected to a computer I can route the physical MIDI ports to the bomes virtuals.
Over WIFI or physically with ethernet.
Have you measured the jitter of the signal through your system? I see a possible use for this as a replacement for USB input, if it's jitter was substaintially less.
Catch my drift?
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Re: Bome Box ethernet
Hi wilcofan,
we have the equipment to do precise latency/jitter measurements. Preliminary testing was very promising, but we'll do a series of real tests soon.
Thanks,
Florian
we have the equipment to do precise latency/jitter measurements. Preliminary testing was very promising, but we'll do a series of real tests soon.
Thanks,
Florian