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Translator preset for Ableton Live?

Post by gilleszi » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:38 pm

I think my question sums it...
I just bought a midi pedal board and wish to control Live actually much like Kid Beyond does it (live recording, looping, etc...)
Does anybody would share these presets or is it intended to be added to the Translator sometime?
Thank you all
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Post by florian » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:35 pm

Hi Gilles,

noone of the Live and MT users has sent sent me a preset. I know they use the keypress emulation to control Live, and I know that Ableton has prepared a tutorial for their web site. But I haven't seen the tutorial yet, and Ableton hasn't sent me a copy of Live yet.

Hope someone else here can help?

Florian

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Post by chris_dan » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:47 am

Hi guys,

I've been trying to configure my yamaha 01x so that all the common editing keys that I use are all available on my control surface. I think that I am almost there...but it's been a real learning process needless to say. I made a chart by copying from the Live manual and pasting into an excel file...nothing fancy.

If you want to take a look or copy it see: <<http://home.golden.net/~chris/live52_ke ... shorts.mht>>

Hope it helps.....

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Post by florian » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:42 pm

Great information, Chris!

Note to Firefox/Mozilla users:
The link http://home.golden.net/~chris/live52_ke ... shorts.mht will not work with Firefox or Mozilla, use Internet Explorer for that page.

Thanks a lot!
Florian

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Post by chelfyn » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:04 am

I've got a working Kid Beyond style setup ready, and I'm more than halfway through writing a tutorial. I'll post it here in a thread first to get some help and feedback on the MT setup (I'm an old hand at ableton but new to MT and there might be better ways of solving the problems.

The key is to have one preset for when you're disarmed, then shift to a seperate preset to handle different 'codes' when you're amed and recording on each channel. Finally, you have to delay every disarm until after the end of the bar, or your loops will end prematurely.

The tutorial itself is up to 6 pages without images, so it will be a huge post :)

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Kid Beyond MT Tutorial :o)

Post by LazyRiverzz » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:05 am

Hi Chelfyn..Thats GREAT news .. Can't wait sir :D James :D

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Post by chelfyn » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:04 am

Quick update - By leaving all tracks armed you can simplify the MT setup hugely. simplified rig is running perfectly now, including automatic bouncedown when you come to channel 8 allowing you to keep overlaying!

This means a rewrite of the tutorial, but it's much easier to setup and understand now. ETA less than 48 hours, so watch this space.

I'd really like as much feedback from these forums as possible before I go plastering it over ableton's and any other places I think it will help people out.

For those too impatient for the full guide, and who just want their hands on the files, you can download them here:

http://www.mohawkmedia.co.nz/MGO1files.zip

the MT setup responds to MIDI notes E0-B0 in semitone steps as this is what's output from my US-428. The ableton file is version 6.05. Here's a screengrab of the ableton setup, with and without keyboard assignments overlayed.

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Pay particular attention to the Inputs/Outputs and monitor status for each channel. Channel 9 is an 'input strip' to apply and insert effects.

You MUST turn off the Computer Midi Keyboard in Ableton (CTRL+SHFT+K), turn off exclusive arming in the record warp launch panel of the preferences dialogue, and finally set your quantise to 1 bar.

You also MUST select the 'safe' preset in MTpro before you start. The whole thing works by changing MT presets to add additional keystrokes to stop the current recording.

Feed your MIDI device into MTPro, and all ableton control is then done via keystrokes. If you can't get your MIDI controller to spit out the right notes (E0-B0) then you'll have to go and edit the MTPro file. tiresome.

Use: start ableton playing. hit any track 1-7 to start recording into that slot on the next bar, and either hit the same button to stop, or hit another button to switch to recoding a new track. channel 8 will resample the entire thing, and when you stop recording it waits 3.5 seconds (over a bar at 90bpm) then cuts/pastes the previously recorded clips into a fresh slot, stops them playing and clears the decks for fresh recording, all the while keeping the resampled loop chugging away. Couldn't be simpler!

I hope this helps you guys! I have 20 days left on my MTPro trial - maybe if florian likes the tutorial I'll find myself with a freebie hint hint :)

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