programming faders on akai apc40

I am just wondering what is the easiest way to program the faders of the akai apc. I have using it to cue a lighting program using mouse positions and it seams that I have done something wrong, as I am not getting movement 100|% of the time. All the buttons and such work without a hiccup, it is just the faders I cant seam to nail down... thanks

Hi saray12

Sorry for the delay in response. You should be able to have one translator for each fader which reads like
Where B0 00 is whatever the fader channel/fader cc number is. The pp just means that it will pass through. Does that make sense?

i know it has been a while, but now i am back at trying to nail this issue... i am having problems where i sort of get a double hit on the virtual fader. say i push it up with mouse positions, then move away from it and come back... it send the same midi message twice and move on screen... any simple way to prevent this ... hope i am making sense

I am not 100% sure I understand the issue you are running into, but let's see if we can figure it out.

If you move your virtual fader with the mouse it will have a different value than the physical fader. When you subsequently move the physical fader your software will jump to where the physical fader currently is. Software like Traktor has ways to mitigate this issue with Soft Takeover, but DAWs like Ableton do not. Is that what's happening? Do you see these double motions when you're using just the physical fader on your controller?

Thanks
Jared

I am trying to move the onscreen fader with mouse positions and moves. there is no soft take over of the virtual fader available.. say i push up the fader to 50%, then move off the fader and preform some other tasks,, when i move back on the fader, the same transition occurs.. I am not sure why

or maybe here is a better idea, can you give me an example of code how you would accomplish this task ? just basically moving the mouse on screen 10 pixels or what have you as the fader moves up... that only kicker is to make sure it works when another item is clicked on or what have you..., thanks

Hi saray

Oh wait, I think I may have misunderstood what you are asking. I thought you were moving the virtual fader WITH your mouse along with your physical fader and you were having issues with them lining up.

You're, in fact, using Mouse Position commands since your lighting software doesn't receive MIDI, correct? If that's the case then I can have an answer shortly, I just want to confirm.

Thanks
Jared

sorry if i was not clear earlier, yes you are correct... i am just using mouse positions to move a fader on the screen as it does not take in midi... it would be great if you could just provide an example with a couple of positions... as i may be tackling the problem the wrong way... thanks so much

Okay. So to do that you need to use global variables to "save" the current mouse position when you move the mouse physically or with another fader. This is a complex solution to what should be a simple problem, so give me a few hours to map it all out on my screen to be sure it works. I think I have a tentative solution. In fact, there are two ways to do this that I just realized, so I'm going to test them and see which is the simplest and most efficient.

Thanks
Jared

thanks so much. waiting to see what madness you come up with

Hi saray

I think I have this together, but I have a quick question. Do you get MIDI feedback from your software? So, if you move a fader virtually can it send its current position to MIDI Translator? Without that this becomes a whole lot more complicated, since MT can't track incoming mouse messages.

Thanks
J

hey there.. thanks for all your efforts. There is absolutely no midi feedback coming from the software.

Alright, I'm gonna pass this up the chain to Florian. I'm not 100% sure we can help with this in MT's current incarnation, but if nothing else it'll be a feature request

Sorry we couldn't get this working.
Jared

thanks for your help... i had put absolute mouse positions on each position of the fader... i am not sure if i was just missing something, would this possibly work or have i gone about this the complete wrong way ??

Hi,

this should work. You need to figure out the following aspects first:

• pixel position of each of the faders, in lowest position and in highest position. Use the center of the fader "cap".
• does a single click position the fader exactly under the mouse, or do you need to grab it for it to move?

Saray12, please check this out for one fader first.

Then you can create a translator that calculates mouse position from controller value. Then, emulate a mouse click at that position. If you must grab the fader, it's a bit more complicated, as you need to first position the mouse over the last fader position, the mouse button down, then set new position, then mouse up.

Jared, does that make sense?

Thanks,
Florian

you are 100% right, you do need to grab it. So it is a mouse down a move and a release... the only problem i have is when you move the fader quickly, sometimes it skips some midi signals i guess, and then i lose control of the fader/ mouse position because it is in the wrong position

If you figure out the exact range of pixels for the fader you can, instead of moving up and down, divide the range by 127 and use global variables to set the position. For example, if you have a 150 pixel range (say, 300 to 450) you can divide that by 128 (getting 1.17) and use a basic rule so wherever the physical fader is you will cross reference with the virtual fader. So:
Then your outgoing absolute position would be vv on your y axis. I haven't tested that but I think it'd work, so no matter where the fader stops it would have an absolute position as opposed to going by movement. Does that make sense?

i am sure it makes sense to you, but talk to me like I am 4... lets say that is i push up the fader quickly, it seams to not send all the midi signals, so it would still jump to a wrong position... or am i just insane ??

Nope, it makes sense. It might be easier if you show me the preset, or the translators you're working with so I can see it, y'know?

If you push it up very fast it's going to send less messages, but it's still sending its current position. What the rules I put out do is only worry about what position the fader is in, not how many steps it is sending. If you are only worried about where the Fader is you're working with an absolute signal, as opposed to a relative signal listening for every individual message. Attach your project so I can take a look.

Jared

I am aware this may seem like an embarrassing way to code compared to what you guys come up with, but after trying for a few months, with much more complicated methods, this one seams to be the one that works best for me... basically as the fader goes up, there are 3 or 4 fader positions that send out the exact same mouse command... it works about 60 - 70 % of the time... but still is not ideal... on the top and bottom fader positions, it basically runs up and down the virtual on screen faders, grabs the fader and drags it up or down...

lets see how wrong i am with this theory


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Okay, for right now let's make sure that what I gave you, in one translator follows the path of the fader. Once that's done we can look at also getting the mouse to click and release as the fader is moving. We should be able to do that without much fuss using timers.

I am having a hard time parsing what your positions are, though. It looks like it jumps from 100 to 90 to 70 on your x axis and 650 to 637 to 620 to 603 to 595 to 668 to 590 to 610 to 640 to 650 to 660 to 670 to 680... With mouse down and mouse up motions based on the fader positions, correct?

the x actually sticks at 90. the only reason i had the other x positions is that i actually just wanted to see if the mouse was moving when i moved the fader. it was an odd experiment. but yes, you are right about the y. basically that is what i have for moving the number 1 fader.

So the general range of the y axis is probably around 595 through 680 on the y axis? Just under 100 steps, correct? And that covers the whole range of Fader 1?

you are 100% correct

Okay, then try a translator like this. Put it in a new preset and deactivate the old one. I'm only concerned that the mouse moves along the whole path of the fader. If it does then we will start working on adding in the mouse click.
Now I'm not sure why your X Axis position changes, but we can add that in if we need to. There will also be a little jump from around the top, between 126 and 127, but that is because it's scaled that way right now. We can refine it as we go, I just want to make sure it's going to move along the fader as you need it.

yep, that does run right along the fader perfectly. you have almost blown my mind...
the only thing i cant figure out is
as i can't get the *0.95 as i can only input 2 digits, unless i am doing something wrong.

if it is easier, here is the actual link to the download of the software i am using, it is free

http://www.chamsys.co.uk/download

Hi saray

You can manually type the rules into the rules window without using the wizard. Just click in the main rules window and paste the rules I inserted.

So since that works fine, though, we can look at adding in the mouse clicks based on the fader motions. So, what'll happen is when you move the fader it will also send a mouse click and when you step moving the fader it will send a mouse release. To do this we have to use timers that cross reference whether or not the fader is moving at all, and if it is it will do nothing. If it is not, though, it will send the release signal after a few milliseconds.

Let me throw this together and see what I can come up with
Jared

Had to make a slight change to rectify the 0.95 as well. I forgot that MT doesn't deal well with rule values that aren't whole numbers. To rectify this, though, we just need to do some extra math. So instead of *0.95 it would be:
This should allow the numbers to scale more accurately based on the difference between 127 (range of your MIDI fader) and 85 (range in pixels of your fader).

As far as clicking the mouse goes, I got some help from Florian and wanted to pass this along. Since you are only going to be using mouse clicks for this you don't need to worry about using different global variables. In fact, you can have one translator cover all of your faders clicking and releasing the mouse.

thank you so much... this is far more accurate and advanced then i could ever come up with.

Just going to put these translator on all my faders...
many thanks...

of course the fun never stops... once i had about 4 faders working. i noticed that the program would stop responding if i moved 2 faders at the same time and would completely stop responding. I had to shut down bome, and when i re opened the file... it would not reopen, and when i checked the saved bome file it was at 0 bytes... just went through this twice..

any suggestions ??

I'll send that thread to Florian and see what he says.

Keep in mind you're performing mouse movements. The mouse can't be in two places at once which is probably why it freaked out. Just to confirm, though, you're sure you saved it before the crash? Need to confirm.

J

i made a new file, and everything seams to be fine right now. thanks again. moving the fader up works beautifully. sometimes i lose the fader going down, after moving off the fader. it is much better then where i started though.

Hi saray12,

sorry to hear that MT crashed! that should never happen. And also, MT should never remove the contents of a .bmtp file. Not sure how that happened -- the file is only accessed when loading or saving. So it's unlikely that it was accessed when it crashed.

Is that on OSX or Windows? Can you tell me the exact steps how to reproduce the crash so that I can do that here? Can you post the .bmtp file for that?

Thanks!
Florian

hey florian. after the program crashed the .bmtp was completely empty. it still opened but was blank, it has a size of 0 kilobytes. i am not sure if i possibly had some sort of completely odd code in in that caused such a thing, or what the issue was. it happened on a windows 7 pc

Sorry for resurecting an old thread but I am trying to so the same thing but when i move the fader on the apc up it drags the fader in magicq down, is there a way to reverse this commands somehow to make the mouse move up instead of down?

Try this in the rules.